Rollerblade RB 90 vrs Seba GT 90

[evilzzz]

If Rollerblade stuff is considerably cheaper in your local market and you already have good experience with Twister, then it's a no-brainer, really. I wouldn't worry about the slightly longer frame - if you never skated on 276 then you probably would never know the difference.

The Seba GT isn't a great skate (imho). Too heavy and bulky for what it is designed for, and too much cuff. It's certainly not a standout in the Seba range (plus, the factory-shipped wheels are sh1t).

[Bebai]

I actually own a pair of twisters 80 (2012 model) n they are my fav @ the moment. Surprising, considering the fact that I also own a pair of Hardcore evos too.....lol. I was actually worried abt the long frames on the RB 10. Thanx for the reassurance especially since I've ordered them and they are already in the post...lol? I totally agree with u on the seba GT thingy. I owned a pair of fr2s n found them extremely bulky so I figured it would b the same for the GTs. IMO most seba skates weigh significantly more than other competitor brands in the same category. I tried on a pair of highs when I was looking to buy a pair of specialized slalom skates. That's how I ended up with the hardcore evos (there were wayyyyy lighter).

[azumi]

I owned a pair of fr2s n found them extremely bulky [..]

How did they feel? Pertaining to maneuverability and fit in comparison to Twister?

[Bebai]

IMO, rollerblade's generally true to size. The Seba didn't fit like I wanted it to. A size 8 (which is my normal shoe size) felt way too tight and the size 9 I ended up buying had too much room around d toes area. Funny huh...lol. I guess its just how my feet is. Maybe Seba should consider making their skates in half sizes (i.e. UK8.5) as well. In terms of manevarability, its just the same as the twisters (same frame length; 243mm) but like I said b4, poor sizing made it difficult for me to enjoy the seba. I still think its a great brand, just not for me though.

[azumi]

You know how the saying goes, the tighter the better. But honestly, if they felt too tight in the beginning they were very likely your proper size. Keep in mind the liners will stretch a looot after some skating. For instance, I have Twister size EU41 but High in size EU40. Still the Twister boots are shorter in length.

[Bebai]

My toes felt completely squashed. The liners expand but the outer plastic shell doesn't. Plus, going from my feet measurement n the seba sizing guide, the size 8 was shorter than my feet by .5cm n the size 9 longer by the same. Thats y i think they should just consider making half sizes like rollerblade n fila

[Teach]

Hello ppl,
I have a big dillema. Since here i can buy only Rollerblade, i wanted to go for Fusion GM. I wear eu47 (31cm) for all of my shoes and snikers and the shop that sells RollerBlade has only 30.5cm.
At Rollerblade sites it says that they fit true to size or even if u want a tight grip u can go to minus one size.
My question is should i go for Fusion GM (30.5cm, which 0.5 smaller that my other shoes) or i should go Fusion 84 which has my size (31cm)
I want to use my skates 2-3-4 hours in a row, maybe more maybe less and if its hurt my feets it would really suck
And i dont have a chance to try them since i will order them via internet.

btw i dont know difference between Fusion GM and Fusion 84 model, but there is not much talk about FUsion 84 model so im a bit affraid to go for them since not many ppl is buying them and there is probably a reason for it.

tnx in advance

[azumi]

Hello ppl,
I have a big dillema. Since here i can buy only Rollerblade, i wanted to go for Fusion GM. I wear eu47 (31cm) for all of my shoes and snikers and the shop that sells RollerBlade has only 30.5cm.
At Rollerblade sites it says that they fit true to size or even if u want a tight grip u can go to minus one size.
My question is should i go for Fusion GM (30.5cm, which 0.5 smaller that my other shoes) or i should go Fusion 84 which has my size (31cm)
I want to use my skates 2-3-4 hours in a row, maybe more maybe less and if its hurt my feets it would really suck
And i dont have a chance to try them since i will order them via internet.

btw i dont know difference between Fusion GM and Fusion 84 model, but there is not much talk about FUsion 84 model so im a bit affraid to go for them since not many ppl is buying them and there is probably a reason for it.

tnx in advance

First off, when you order skates online you can order almost any brand. You say you have shoe size EU47. Problem is most people wear too large shoes. Hence what you need to do is a proper foot measurement before considering any skate size!

Instruction on how to measure feet,

take a sheet of paper. Step on it with a naked foot. Make sure you have cut your toenails. Use a ruler or triangle and put it perpendicular in front of your big toe. Take a pen and make a T-mark. The same you do with the heel. After that measure the two T-marks. Since feet do vary in size you have to measure both your feet.

It looks like this, -|big toe-foot-heel|-

Once you know your proper size get the skates accordingly to their Mondopoint (size in MM). At the beginning the skates should feel way too small. Because after some time the padding will adopt to your feet. So don't get too large skates. Most people get too large skates and after 1-2 months they regret the purchase 'cause they are swimming in the boots.

About the Fusion GM and 84, the only difference are the colors and used materials. The GM model has recyclable materials. So it's more ecologically. Plus the 84 has 84mm wheels instead of 80mm.

Bebai, still I believe size 8 is your size.

[Herb]

Fusions GMs are exactly the same skate as Fusion 84, minus used materials (different plastic used for shell - without PVC, more enviroment friendly), 45 degree strap on GMs (standard F 84 have buckle, which most people prefer actually) and cuff screws instead of rivets (no big deal, no problem with rivets in my skates after whole year of usage). So if Fusion 84 will be in size you need, you won't miss anything. Wheels, bearings, frames, liners - are the same on both models.

Measure your feet and get skate with corresponding length, it's best way to choose Fusion sizes. Foam in Fusion liners shrink pretty quickly, plus they have thin neoprene on toes, so if you'll feel any pressure on toes it's most likely from shells.

Keep in mind both Fusion GM and Fusion 84 in large sizes come with 273mm frame that fit 90mm wheels, eve though they have 84mm mounted.

And about popularity of Fusions - trust me, the are popular. Check how many freeskaters in Poland ride them, customs based on them, or even customs based on Solo aggressive boots which are the same:

http://freeskatenews.pl/showthread.php?tid=606

Most freeskaters aren't keen on sacrificing ability to slalom (they use the same skates for slalom, slides and freeride), and Fusions are not for slalom - boots too wide in toe area, so wheelings are hard to perform, and frames are too long. So they aren't as popular as FR1 80 or Twisters. Still they are excellent freeride skates.

[Cormac]

I got the RB 90 a couple of weeks ago, after a few years of not skating. The reason I chose them after trying numerous others, including soft boot skates, is their responsiveness due to the hard shell.

I've got about 16 hours use out of them now and finding them very fast and responsive. I'm using them with thick socks as I can feel the hard shell through the liner in places but still happy with these skates. They really feel sharp, giving me a feeling of good control, with every movement of my foot being transmitted to the skate.

I tried on the Seba GT 90 but didn't find the fit of the boot suited my foot shape, which is on the narrow side.

[Teach]

Herb, thank u for ur post, u put me in some thinkng..

Im really, really confused. Ive never skated before so i really dont know what is good for what, i only can decide with ur posts and tnx for all of ur help

I guess I'll give up the fusion. And go for 80mm.


Why is there 84mm wheels option when the most ppl dont use it? Coz im big footed maybe i shouldnt go Fusion coz i will have 273mm long frame which comes with eu47 ? I dunno is it good or bad since i never used skates.
How much 84mm wheels r faster than 80mm wheels?

I guess i should go Twister or Seba FR 1, whats the difference between these two skates?

Twister i have here inn Serbia and i can order n try them out and get other size if they dont fit, (some ppl says that twister is smaller size than other RB skates)
Thing i dont like about twister is that they comes with 80a wheels, which is kinda soft, plus i weight (100kg) and will do some jumps and stuff. Here also cant get anything but RB wheels and if i want to order other weehls it would cost me +65e (wheels and shipping) to get http://bladeville.com/shop/products/browse?manufacturer=&category=3&filter%5B95%5D=&filter%5B3%5D=39&filter%5B2%5D=16
Twister cost 220e here and if i decide to go for wheels +65e (with shipping) will be 285e

Ive heard that Rollerblade skates r lower to the ground which is better?

Or i should try to order Seba FR 1 if they have my size, they should have it, and FR 1 comes with 85a wheels which is very nice, not like twister's. FR 1 would cost me 255e (with shipping). If size with F1 arent good its gonna be pain in the ass to send them back and get another.

Both Twister and FR1 has 243mm frame, is that 2 small coz of my feet? Theres Seba FR1 84, with 84mm wheels and 255mm frame

I want to use my skates for street ride and some jumps.. (dunno about slalom).

Also im 2m (6.56 feet) tall, whivh the length of frame will suit me?

[Bebai]

I got the RB 90 a couple of weeks ago, after a few years of not skating. The reason I chose them after trying numerous others, including soft boot skates, is their responsiveness due to the hard shell.

I've got about 16 hours use out of them now and finding them very fast and responsive. I'm using them with thick socks as I can feel the hard shell through the liner in places but still happy with these skates. They really feel sharp, giving me a feeling of good control, with every movement of my foot being transmitted to the skate.

I tried on the Seba GT 90 but didn't find the fit of the boot suited my foot shape, which is on the narrow side.

Thanx 4 the mini review. Nice to hear from some1 who's had an experience using the RB-10. I figured the liners might b thin cos the twisters are . I don't really mind though. Any other thing else u might have to say abt it?

[azumi]

I guess i should go Twister or Seba FR 1, whats the difference between these two skates?

Twister are more narrow while FR1 are wider.

However, I would recommend you Fila NRK especially since you on EU46 - EU47 and the FR1 are bulky! They would look like missiles.

Unfortunately the Fila NRK is hard to get (Spanish shop; my friends have ordered there and Inercia is credible), http://www.inerciaonline.com/patines-en ... ate/nrk-ii

If you still want the Fusion get this one, http://www.warehouse-one.de/Sports-Worl ... -2011.html 'cause they are on special offer plus they come with composite lightweight frames. Basically you could put soulplates under the boots and go aggressive, grinding and stuff.

[Herb]

Teach, take Twisters out of equation. Their sizing is messed up and they don't really come in your size. Afaik only skates that do, are Seba FRs and RB Fusions.

Also, X3 frame is actually heavier than aluminium one, and for a guy who weights around 100kg i would still recommend skate with alu frames.

[azumi]

Herb, so what? Every aggressive frame is a composite frame, and they are intended for jumps and grinding. They won't break.

[Herb]

Actually, I know a guy who break this frame (tried powerblading with it). Walls of this frame aren't durable like most aggressive frames. Take for example Kizer Advance Powerblading frame - it's also full composite but walls are thicker, and top bridge is one piece, while in X3 there are two separate bridges. One problem with this frame is axle holes - they are shaped so one side of axles won't turn, but plastic crack after some time and axles aren't blocked anymore. You have to cut head of counterpart side of axle to made slot for screwdriver, to properly tighten them. It's good for lighter guys yeah, but if funds allows it, it's still much better to get Fusions with aluminum frames, and with weight above 80-90kg it's a must imo. Aluminum one is stronger, lighter, shorter in smaller sizes - 255mm vs. 262mm, and there are no problems with axles as they are great quality 8mm racing ones with really deep slot for allen key.

[Cormac]

Thanx 4 the mini review. Nice to hear from some1 who's had an experience using the RB-10. I figured the liners might b thin cos the twisters are . I don't really mind though. Any other thing else u might have to say abt it?

I'd say the lacing system on the RB 90 is fairly basic; it's hard to tighten the skates much with them. If you want a really comfortable skate, these may not be the best skates to go for. I've only been out on them for five days so far, around three + hours each time, and they've gotten more comfortable with use. Still, they haven't become very comfortable yet.

In terms of performance I feel fairly unencumbered skating in them. Basically like an extension of my leg, and they definitely seem like a 'fast' skate with good wheels.

Despite any downside considerations, the initial feeling I had when I tried them out in the store is still my impression of them now. I'd say if you're still not sure just try them on few more times and decide based on which one feels right for you.

[Bebai]

Well I'm thinking that if it's anything like the twisters 80, I would be fine. Do u mind posting some pictures? Mine's still in the post n I'm very anxious to see them..lol

[Cormac]

Hey I don't have any pics handy, but let me know how you get on with them. I don't see many skaters with the same skates, so would be good to hear your impressions after your skates arrive

[Bebai]

So i FINALLY received my skates yesterday (Yipppeeeeeeee....lol). Very long wait. Anyways jus tot i should say a few things abt my first impression of em'. Compared to the twisters 80 (its look alike), its verrrrrryy light i almost thought they were fake...lol. Basically like cormac said, it feels just like an extension of your feet when u wear them. I tried them on and the 285mm frames felt very strange (compared to the 243mm frames im used to) but that lasted for like 2seconds. i was able to adapt quickly (parallel turns, 360 turns and backward skating). The longer frames makes it extremely stable even @high speed. i also felt more confident doing backward forward transitions. Overall, they are well made skates (in terms of quality and performance). I just hope it continues to hold up well cos i intend to use them alot (its not like i do jumps or stunts anyways)...Azumi asked to see pictures so here u go