Can serpentineroad.com be improved? [POLL]

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Do you think the forum Serpentineroad.com has room for improvement?

Poll ended at Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:01 pm

No - I like it the way it is
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43%
Maybe - But I am not sure how
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21%
Yes - I know it can be better
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37%
 
Total votes: 68

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Re: Can serpentineroad.com be improved? [POLL]

Postby Stevie B » Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:21 pm

How about some of the newdies, lurkers etc have their say?
Maybe the reason they dont post so much is that they have a life.

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Re: Can serpentineroad.com be improved? [POLL]

Postby Steve » Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:34 pm

So far we seem to be saying:

o Keep the skating forums more civilised.
o Create a welcome forum at the top for new users.
o Try to find a way of restricting access to foo unless people have posted a bit.
o Ask Mike nicely if he would please come back.

Anything else?

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Re: Can serpentineroad.com be improved? [POLL]

Postby Sparky » Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:36 pm

Subject: NTWNS - First of 2007: Take Two

blob wrote:you bastards!


Need I go on?

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Re: Can serpentineroad.com be improved? [POLL]

Postby SkateKitten » Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:52 pm

Sparky wrote:Subject: NTWNS - First of 2007: Take Two

blob wrote:you bastards!


Need I go on?

Lol, this is from 2007 so what has it got to do with the here and now?

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Re: Can serpentineroad.com be improved? [POLL]

Postby Becca » Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:55 pm

Q... wrote:I found most of these by searching key swear words. None of them are in foo.

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Stevie B wrote:I will be up for that if you could also point me in the right direction for stair riding...


Does Q. do a Stannah-Stair -Lift course?



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lurch wrote:
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aTMsA wrote:Drop the lycra while you're at it.

Wrong, if he drops the lycra he will be naked on the Sunday stroll, do you really want that to happen?

You mean he's naked under that? Ew!


He has socks on under there, and not on his feet. Yes, he stuffs.



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saffron wrote:Hmmmmm.....half a skate again me thinks?

half naked again?....


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Oh and Sparky is a (^$$!!!. Waking me up at 2am!


I raise you with a Kim waking me up with a 5am (Ugandan time) text...LOL...claiming it was on behalf of Sparky, Gumbie and Quaddie

But from what I have been told naked wrestling folllowed and Quaddie finally got his gay on so Kim is forgiven!


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Becca wrote:Hmmm.... I do love this route. But I think I may have a rest after Le Mans.


Pussy.


Meowww. Purrrr..........


*scratch*bite*scratch*


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quadsteve wrote:1 o'clock you twat's


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gummidge wrote:Not only that, but three pages of pedantic twaddle without a single flame. What the fuck's wrong with you inline muppets?




Maybe you could state exactly what is wrong with each of these? I don't see a problem with any of them. Perhaps you just get offended too easily.

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Re: Can serpentineroad.com be improved? [POLL]

Postby Sparky » Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:57 pm

SkateKitten wrote:Lol, this is from 2007 so what has it got to do with the here and now?


What has MikeVE got to do with now?

I'm just pointing out how Q obviously wants something different from the forum now but was no different to many of the people he is pointing the finger at now.

Just because he has gone all serious shouldn't mean we all have to.

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Re: Can serpentineroad.com be improved? [POLL]

Postby SkateKitten » Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:00 pm

lolainlondon wrote:
SkateKitten wrote:I see no harm in people making a bit of an effort to be polite, its no more than what you would do in the real world in a conversation is it?


But as Mozz has pointed out - that's not true. If I'm addressing comments directly to someone I have never spoken to before (ie a new person asking what skates we all think they should get) then I may be more mannerable and most of the time I try not to use the more hated swear words in the skating forums. But if I'm talking amongst or to friends or acquaintances I don't want to have to censor my language just to avoid offending someone's delicate sensibilities. You're right, there is no harm in making an effort to be polite, but I also don't see why I should be compelled to talk in a manner I wouldn't adopt in private.

I know on an internet forum I'm read by people who don't know me, but I'm overheard in restaurants, pubs and shops by people who don't know me and this wouldn't stop me using any of those swear words.

For me and all my friends yes it is true. The closer I am to my mates the more friendly and supportive I am and I believe in treating people how I want to be treated. So no, I don't swear or be rude to my friends. Quite frankly I find many of your posts pretty rude and I often don't bother posting in threads as I don't want to get flamed and feel obligated to defend my posts. And now we are back to what a number of people who are normally more lurkers than posters have been saying.

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Re: Can serpentineroad.com be improved? [POLL]

Postby Becca » Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:01 pm

Q... wrote:
mit wrote:And I still have no idea what the panda thing is about.


ahh but don;t worry, things wll eventually move on to something else.

before their was: Breastickle, the fat and lard group, the borat outfits and much more.


If you don't get the joke, perhaps just ask? There is currently a thread in Foo, where Steve has asked for an explanation of the panda thing - go and read that if you want a thorough explanation of it - as you'll see, there's really no in-joke there. People just like pandas!

As for the fat and lard group - It was based on insulting comments that a skater made to another skater in a Serp Rd discussion. If you search for 'Obese Waddling carcass' I'm sure you'll find the post that started it all.

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Re: Can serpentineroad.com be improved? [POLL]

Postby SkateKitten » Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:02 pm

Sparky wrote:
SkateKitten wrote:Lol, this is from 2007 so what has it got to do with the here and now?


What has MikeVE got to do with now?

Which is exactly what I have already posted a page or two ago.

Sparky wrote:I'm just pointing out how Q obviously wants something different from the forum now but was no different to many of the people he is pointing the finger at now.

Just because he has gone all serious shouldn't mean we all have to.

We are talking about how the forum is now, not a few years ago. Yes he seems to have gone more serious, as have I tbh, but he still is talking about the forum as it is now and how/if it can be improved. People do change over the years you know.

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Re: Can serpentineroad.com be improved? [POLL]

Postby yaustar » Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:08 pm

Stevie B wrote:How about some of the newdies, lurkers etc have their say?
Maybe the reason they dont post so much is that they have a life.

As I said earlier, I haven't yet seen anything that is *really* bad on here compared to other forums I have lurked/been on. Even after going through one the epic LandRoller threads, I couldn't see anything too out of the ordinary.

No-one chewed me out or had a pop at me in the threads I started and a lot of good advice was given.

Going back to an earlier suggestion about a Beginners/Newbie section works on other forums like GameDev where no question is a stupid question and rules are strictly enforced.

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Re: Can serpentineroad.com be improved? [POLL]

Postby Becca » Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:12 pm

GuinnessGirl wrote:
[i]all[i] swearing? But people just don't talk that way, there is suge a huge range of swear words used on a daily basis by many, from the mild to the incredibly offensive, to mod all of them would hard work



I agree.
It depends on what you actually class as swearing. I think we'd agree that c*** and f*** are swearing. But what about s*** and b*******? Are they swearing? If people are offended by someone saying b******* then maybe that's their problem not ours.
(I've self-moderated the swear words until I get a reply about what are considered swear words and what aren't!)

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Re: Can serpentineroad.com be improved? [POLL]

Postby Anothersillyname » Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:14 pm

SkateKitten wrote:
lolainlondon wrote:
SkateKitten wrote:I see no harm in people making a bit of an effort to be polite, its no more than what you would do in the real world in a conversation is it?


But as Mozz has pointed out - that's not true. If I'm addressing comments directly to someone I have never spoken to before (ie a new person asking what skates we all think they should get) then I may be more mannerable and most of the time I try not to use the more hated swear words in the skating forums. But if I'm talking amongst or to friends or acquaintances I don't want to have to censor my language just to avoid offending someone's delicate sensibilities. You're right, there is no harm in making an effort to be polite, but I also don't see why I should be compelled to talk in a manner I wouldn't adopt in private.

I know on an internet forum I'm read by people who don't know me, but I'm overheard in restaurants, pubs and shops by people who don't know me and this wouldn't stop me using any of those swear words.

For me and all my friends yes it is true. The closer I am to my mates the more friendly and supportive I am and I believe in treating people how I want to be treated. So no, I don't swear or be rude to my friends. Quite frankly I find many of your posts pretty rude and I often don't bother posting in threads as I don't want to get flamed and feel obligated to defend my posts. And now we are back to what a number of people who are normally more lurkers than posters have been saying.

+1

Lolainlondon might use the odd swear word in conversation but (having conversed with her) I can confirm that she's really a nice person whose language does not come over as the sort of Tourette Syndrome outbursts that you can read here. Part of it is that someone speaking in a pleasant voice with a smile can say a lot of cuss-words without giving offence but online the same words leap out in a way that many people find unacceptable.

I know people who are very involved in the skate community and who would have a lot of interesting things to say who don't post here because they don't like the atmosphere. I think Serp Rd would be more interesting if they posted - hence my vote that it could be improved.

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Re: Can serpentineroad.com be improved? [POLL]

Postby Becca » Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:16 pm

Q... wrote:
THe links I have put were only the first few I saw. No Steve, they are not offenssive, but unnecessary comment and/or silly comments that are irrelevant to the topic.



Then perhaps you are using Serp Rd for a different purpose that many of us? I use it to have fun, discuss skating, socialise etc. Silliness adds to that rather than detracting from it. A forum without silliness would be dull and no-one would use it.
And anyway, why should you get to deem comments 'unnecessary' or 'irrelevant'? If someone posted them, clearly they thought it was necessary or relevant.

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Re: Can serpentineroad.com be improved? [POLL]

Postby Barrie » Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:22 pm

Anothersillyname wrote:I know people who are very involved in the skate community and who would have a lot of interesting things to say who don't post here because they don't like the atmosphere. I think Serp Rd would be more interesting if they posted - hence my vote that it could be improved.
Is that still the case? I know/knew a few who thought the same a few years back, seems a shame... but is it better to cater for the people who are here, or the people who aren't? A bit of a tricky one to balance perhaps.

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Re: Can serpentineroad.com be improved? [POLL]

Postby SkateKitten » Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:22 pm

Anothersillyname wrote:
Lolainlondon might use the odd swear word in conversation but (having conversed with her) I can confirm that she's really a nice person whose language does not come over as the sort of Tourette Syndrome outbursts that you can read here. Part of it is that someone speaking in a pleasant voice with a smile can say a lot of cuss-words without giving offence but online the same words leap out in a way that many people find unacceptable.

I can only go by what I read here as I don't know Lolainlondon in person and this is where we have the issue between people who know each other in real life and people who can only know people online. Perhaps that is what the issue boils down to? People who meet up all the time in RL carry over their joking around on here but they then appear to be in-jokes to the people who only see the online stuff.

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Re: Can serpentineroad.com be improved? [POLL]

Postby Becca » Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:23 pm

SkateKitten wrote:People do change over the years you know.


Yes, they do. But just because he has changed, why should we? He used to use swear words on the forum (as Sparky has showed) and is now judging others for doing so. Just because his personal opinions on swearing on Serp Rd have changed, why should everyone else follow?

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Re: Can serpentineroad.com be improved? [POLL]

Postby lolainlondon » Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:33 pm

SkateKitten wrote: Quite frankly I find many of your posts pretty rude and I often don't bother posting in threads as I don't want to get flamed and feel obligated to defend my posts. And now we are back to what a number of people who are normally more lurkers than posters have been saying.


That's fine. Many of my posts are rude. Lots of them aren't - I am occasionally a useful and reasonably nice person around here - but if I perceive stupidity, ignorance or bad grammar I have been known to go for the jugular, but only if I consider my response reasonably amusing. There are plenty of stupid comments I don't respond to, and plenty of threads I don't wish to engage in. That's my choice.

And as for feeling obligated to defend posts, I don't think that it's a terrible thing that someone should think about what they type before they post it - whether that's my swearing, or what someone wants to post in a thread. The number of posts I've written and then deleted because I didn't think were interesting enough, factually accurate enough or funny enough are probably around equal to the number of posts I've actually made. You didn't think you were alone in self-editing did you?

I won't make a statement, here or anywhere else, unless I'm willing to defend it, and that fact that you see defence of your opinions/thoughts/ideas as something which we are forcing upon you is quite alien to me. I expect this of other people. This isn't because I've "got all my mates in this so-called clique around to back me up". If you went through the history of my posts (a most tedious pass time I assure you) you'll find that before I ever met any of these people I was just as opinionated and just as blunt.

Most of the time when someone does go rather over the top on this forum it's precisely because someone has posted something in one of the more argumentative threads without any actual thought as to the reasoning behind what they have said and in my opinion they should learn to give as good as they get because they've chosen to get involved in the argument. All of the comments you find rude (especially by me) on this forum are generally made in the spirit of verbal sparring/witty banter and many conversations go on in PM between the individuals concerned if things do get too much.

Anothersillyname wrote:Part of it is that someone speaking in a pleasant voice with a smile can say a lot of cuss-words without giving offence but online the same words leap out in a way that many people find unacceptable.

Cheers :lol:
I understand that some people find certain words unacceptable and offensive. I just genuinely don't think that people have an inalienable right not to be offended. There is the option in the control panel for people to add individuals as "foes" which automatically hides their posts. If people are fed up of silly comments or the language used by me or anyone else they should use the options at their disposal and not expect the people to act according to how someone else would behave.

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Re: Can serpentineroad.com be improved? [POLL]

Postby Becca » Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:49 pm

lolainlondon wrote: I just genuinely don't think that people have an inalienable right not to be offended.


I agree. Pretty much anything anyone can say could be taken as offensive by someone. If we censor ourselves so much that no-one will ever get offended, we'll never end up saying anything at all. I don't think many of really want Serp Rd to become so politically correct that nothing can be said just in case it offends someone. Perhaps people who get offended so easily should think about why such things offend them, rather than expecting others to change.

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Re: Can serpentineroad.com be improved? [POLL]

Postby Q... » Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:12 pm

Becca wrote:
SkateKitten wrote:People do change over the years you know.


Yes, they do. But just because he has changed, why should we? He used to use swear words on the forum (as Sparky has showed) and is now judging others for doing so. Just because his personal opinions on swearing on Serp Rd have changed, why should everyone else follow?


Becca sweety,
I am no angel as I said before. Guess what, I also fart and beurp as well as swear.
The problem for me is not the swearing itself. I have already explained my piece. just go back to previous post and read me again.


For the waddling carcases I know too well how it started and also how it ended. But best not to show my opinion on here. another time another place.

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Re: Can serpentineroad.com be improved? [POLL]

Postby Dan B » Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:21 pm

lolainlondon wrote: There is the option in the control panel for people to add individuals as "foes" which automatically hides their posts.

I thoroughly recommend it. Only good feature they added in phpbb


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